Episode Transcript
Hey, everybody! It's Legal Queen LA back again with episode number two. I really, really, really hope that you enjoyed the first episode talking about mental health, and it is still mental health awareness month. So today we're gonna be focusing on women as a whole. And specifically we're gonna focus on rap women. And I titled this episode Rap B*tches versus Their Own Fans. For the specific reason that we're going to be digesting today is rap music. The problem are women, the problem against other women, and what's going on with all these rap beefs, I just, we can't keep up. So today we have my one and only my baby sister, Nina Brown, @theBalletBgirl.
She's gonna be here to help us digest and break down and talk about everything. Um, I'm gonna let her introduce herself, but she is a professional choreographer, a professional, professional dancer, and she's actually the reason why I ended up in Los Angeles to begin with. She sprinkled the Hollywood dust on me, and I've been here ever since. So, um, I'm really happy to have her here. But let's get into the news because baby, it has been getting spicy in 2023. Um, most recently, Coi Leray, Coi Leray listened to one of Latto’s new songs and she said, um, my Blunt is big as Coi Leray and Coi Leray has obviously had a lot of issues with body shaming, um, since she came out into the mainstream. Um, it's very unfortunate, but she automatically took that line of that song as a dis or as an insult. And I believe that's because of the way that things are going in the industry. There always has to be a problem between another artist or, or a newer artist, or a bigger artist. Um, but it, it was really nice, even though that that's what kind of the culture has come to accept. It was really nice at Coachella, uh, last weekend, Latto performed that song and she actually addressed it and said, you know, there was no disk. I love Coi Leray. It just, you know, it, it was just a bar, which I mean, If my blunt is big as somebody else, I mean that, I guess that means I'm just smoking good!
Yeah. I, I I think that, um, there's always like this tension between a lot of like, professional artists when it comes to things like that, especially because of like old media. So like, lotto having issues with other artists. So it's like Coi probably felt like her back was against the wall because of like beef that happened before. But one thing that I could say about Lato is even when it came to the whole thing about Nicki, like she never wanted to, oh, she never wanted it to be like any kind of beef. And so now I feel like she always has to be really specific at, of like what she says
And like, put a disclaimer. Yeah.
Because people take everything that she says. So literally, which I think is interesting because we have someone like Drake who will like flat out like dis everybody, and you know what I mean? He brushes that off. But that can't be something that follows suit with the females. And I think that that's really interesting.
That is interesting. And I, I actually had it in my news to bring up the Nicki versus Lato because oh my gosh, I was supposed to bring my Barbie ring to this episode. I'm so mad. It's at home on my vanity. I found it. It is from 2009 because I am an original Barb. Okay. Yeah. Um, everybody knows
You've been a Barb for since as long as I since. Barb, you're the reason why I, I'm a Barb. Barb. See? Yeah. Like I went to, we went to that Nicki concert and you got me that chain.
Yes. My inspiration! This. Okay. This is how, you know, seven is heaven. Yeah. That's our thing. Um, my first concert in the world was Britney Spears when I was seven. Okay. Fast forward 10 years. My concert, my next concert was Britney Spears with Nicki Minaj. How the f*ck did that happen? Full the first time. Full circle.
Full Circle.
But hello! My second inspiration at, at 17, and then fast forward to 27 mm-hmm. last year, I went to go see my man, Lil Baby, and he brought out Nicki Minaj.
That was like one of the biggest moments in history, like for myself of like going to like, rap of festivals or concerts or anything. And like, I don't think that me and you could have contained our excitement, girl That I, I feel like that was the best show. We were like, is she here? Is she here? Is she here? As soon as we saw her, I mean, we were there. I felt
I fell through the chair. We were remember that?
Yes. We were going crazy. The whole room was going crazy. The energy was so amazing because
It's the queen. I mean, what you mean, right. Um, but I, I always say, so Britney Spears was my first inspo. Nicki was my second inspo. Um, I am scared to meet my inspiration. Yeah. And the situation with Latto really kind of brought that to the forefront because Latto is a self-proclaimed Barb as well. Yeah. That was her idol. That was her inspiration. That was her rap inspiration. Right. And she came for her and tore her down. She,
And, and especially on Twitter, I feel like I just wanna talk about the pl the platform of Twitter in general as
I'm not on there. So tell me. Yeah. It is like a place for bullies a lot of the time. Um, and it's like, especially like the concept of like black Twitter, and I'm not blaming black Twitter cuz they're gonna come for me. Um, but on there, they're just,
That's probably only the twi the only Twitter we subscribe to,
Dude, there are just, it just is really rowdy and ruthless. Um, and I feel like th that's what started a lot of it. And then for the celebrities themselves, it fuels the fire. To take it to the platform was just like completely like, well, this is what they want. Right? This is what they want it automatically because one other people start commenting and saying stuff, then it fuels the person who's actually the vital person in the debate or of whatever it is. It fuels them because they're reading all these comments and then that person's like, oh, I didn't even think of that. So then they start going in even more like, oh, that's a good point. You know? Oh, I
Didn't even think about that. Now I'm mad again. Yeah. Um, I, I get that. And honestly, like I said, I love Nicki Minaj, period. Point blank. Don't anyone ever listen to this and misconstrue the facts. That's the queen. However, why has there always been a beef with everyone?! Remy, with Lil Kim, with Cardi B, with Latto, with, uh, like,
Yeah. Why? I, I don't really understand that either. Um, and just from, um, as, as being a dancer and being in that community and knowing a lot of people who do pa work and who've actually gotten to work with her, it is always comes from a place of fear. When those people talk about their experience on the set, they're like
Shaking, Shaking in their boots shaking. Yeah. Like, I remember one of my friends did a music video with her and was like, yeah, they told us to like, not look at her. Like, don't look at her. Don't look at her. And I, I just imagine how like that takes away from the experience because as the dancer, this is what you live for. This is what you work for. You're like, I wanna dance for this artist. I wanna be with this artist. And, uh, do a big show with them. And, and then you get into the room and they're just completely not what you expected. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, another, uh, person that I know worked on a set with her, and I mean, they went out of their way cuz he was a pa on the set, went out of their way completely to do over the top things for her. Like she wanted her glam room to have a tunnel.
That Rider! Y'all better make sure your management or your attorney puts that rider together. Because if you want only red Skittles and you want 17 bottles of, of Bel Air and you want fluffy pillows, then I mean good god. Put it in the rider. Well,
What they basically did was build her a state, like a, a hallway, An underground railroad?
Basically!
Built her this like transportation segue thing for her to get from glam to set. So they didn't have to deal with, or, so she didn't have to deal with like, anybody, you know, anybody looking at her or, you know, I, I don't feel, I feel like that's a narrative that they don't want people to look at her, but like I, I think that she was just trying to like protect herself. And that's where I think I was like trying to go with this. Like, cuz I see both sides, like she is herself, right? Mm-hmm. She is one of the biggest, um, female artists in our generation right now. And I couldn't imagine because she came into the game in the like the 2010's right. Or even maybe before. Yeah. '09, '08. Yeah.
Around that time. Like I can't imagine all of the things that she went through mm-hmm and being one of the, cuz she was like a, she was a breakthrough,
She's the pioneer, right?
Mm-hmm. she's, she was, she was like a breakthrough. Um, and kind of like was setting the tone in a group like, uh, yc, Y M C N B
YMCMB.
Yeah. And being in there and being like the only female artist. I can just only imagine all of the trials and tribulations that she went through, um, in those spaces and just being such a sensation, people being like, like just all over her and wanting to touch her and, you know what I mean? That could be deprecating. Could I can only imagine. But,
But at the same time, you know, I've met plenty of famous people and famous women like Cardi. I feel like that's my b*tch. We could be best friends. We can hang out on the weekend because she's down to earth. She's gonna be like, yo, like, what's up? You know?
Yeah. I feel like just because she's just a humble person in general mm-hmm it seems like, and she's always been, and
I've never chosen between Cardi and Nicki. Y'all not gonna make me do it. I gotta keep disclaiming. Yeah. Because y'all not gonna be in my comments talking about Nope. Mm-hmm.
Cardi has always been her most authentic self when it comes to like, being honest about where she comes from and yeah. I got my teeth fixed and you know what I mean? She was more of an Instagram personality Yeah. Before she came, uh, a music sensation. And I think with that, like, it's not even something that she could hide. So she was like, you know, I'm just gonna always be true to myself and like, I'm this, I'm this b*tch. This is where I'm from, this is what I'm talking about. Like, you know what I mean? That's very much what she carries. And I, and I feel like that is what made her brand so spectacular when as far as like Nicki, she has always, um, been around like young money in, in in that whole crowd and they were superstars. Mm-hmm. And like I said, her being the only female, she was like, yeah, I'm that one. She's a princess. Yeah. She was very much a princess. And, and, and I think it's just because they're both from New York, York mm-hmm. So I couldn't say like the actual background I'm saying about how they both have presented themselves to the world and,
And how they, how they came about. Yeah. Right.
Because Cardis has always been very authentic and very like, you know, this is who we are. We black, we are in it. Like, you know what I mean? To where I feel like Nicki has been, um, by the public kind of made to conform almost into cuz like, I don't know, I don't wanna say this without like saying it wrong, um, but like, I don't know. I just feel like Nicki has always had to put on, especially because she came in at the time that she was, which was very like white and
She had to fight.
Yeah. It was just,
She had to fight it.
She was, yes. And it was very like whitewashed mm-hmm, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. At that time mm-hmm. Like the black, the black culture didn't, wasn't like the forefront at that time in history Yeah. As it is now. Yeah.
So that's true.
I think all those factors
And, and since we, since we mentioned Y M C M B, uh, Nicki Minaj just broke another record because again, hats off to the queen. Um, she is the artist, or I'm sorry, the rapper with the most number one hits in digital song sales history surpassing her Y M C M B counterpart. Drake
Really?!
Surpassing Drizzy! Yes.
I, she deserves that because I, and I feel like, you know, I am not a chooser because I don't feel like it should be a either one. Women should be a choice. Yeah. You know what I mean? Um, so she definitely deserves it. And I mean, she has so many slaps, like, you know how people have albums and like, only two of 'em make number one. Mm-hmm she has released albums and there's been so many
Hits! I'll never forget, when I went and got stood in line to buy the Pink Friday CD on Pink Fri-I mean Black Friday-on Pink Friday, um, along with, uh, with my Barbie chain and my Barbie ring on. Okay.
I had a Pink Friday necklace. Yours said Barbie mm-hmm. And mine said Pink Friday. Hell yes.
Yes. Hell yeah. So I went to school with the pink wig, pink, what was it? Pink wig. Thick ass. Give them Whip lash. I went to high school with my fake butt and my pink wig and my chain
For senior something something day like, y'all, y'all really couldn't tell me nothing.
Cosplay day at school, whatever it is. I mean, hey. But you know who we haven't mentioned and who I really appreciate. Meg! Big Meg. Love, love her. Um, she actually came to the forefront and said, I do not bring other females down. Like she refused to be put in a box with beef or anything. And I think that that's a big power stance for her to take. Yeah. Um, but she did bring up a really interesting point since we were just talking about Twitter and how, uh, black Twitter kind of fuels fires and creates fires. She actually put out an article, um, stating that the source of much of the friction between female rappers comes from the fans. Yeah. And you know, it's, it's, what did she say? I feel like when, you know, your friend might not feel so good about somebody, you go outta your way. Like, okay, I'm not f*cking with you. And you know, there's toxic fans that want, that want people to fight and they want, they want their, their little, what is it not a, I don't even know, an insult. Their little, little like agenda. Comments.
Comments, their critiques, whatever. They just wanna voice their opinions. And on Twitter, I mean, one tweet could have 2 million retweets by tomorrow. Yeah. You know, and then it gets to the point a lot, a lot of the times the artists don't acknowledge things, but when it gets, you know, they get mentioned in something 5,000 times. I mean, what is a point Yeah. Where you respond, right. Or what is a point where where you validate it. Yeah. You know, and I think, um, I think the city girls young Miami particularly, has done a really good job of basically saying, I don't give a f*ck. Yeah.
Um, she follows the Kardashian rules.
Yeah. Like, you, I don't care. And I, I wish I would've gotten this clip. She, she, she put up a video and she was like, she was like, the crazy part is I really don't give a f*ck. And she was like, one f*ck, two f*ck. Red f*ck, blue f*ck. I don't care. Yeah. And I'm not Go care. And she's obviously, she's hilarious. Kaisha, please. I love her. Um, but I think her and Meg both have done really well at like, staying out of that drama,
Drama beef.
Yeah. Meg has had such a hard time. Like, that girl just wants to make music. She just Wanna live
And be with her man. And they have just made a, like, tried to make a mockery out of her and you know, the things that she stands for. And I feel like that is just so upsetting and, and, and it really takes away from, you know what I mean, as fans, we want her to make more music mm-hmm. But then her fans is the same people who are bullying her.
Yeah.
So, and you know, um, there was this, there was this article, um, this like kind of, uh, writeup about Meg speaking up against Tory Lanez and Meghan Markle speaking up against the, the royal family. And it was like, when a black woman says it all, hell breaks loose. Yeah. But if someone else got shot Right. Or if someone else got ousted from a country, yeah.
We would care.
Right. You know, so I don't know. But while, while we're talking about building people up and not women versus women, I wanna highlight some of the newest up and coming rap shorties because there's a lot of them and we know two of them personally.
Yes. The Two Tone Twins! The 2 Tone Twins. Shout out the 2tone Twins. Those are my favorite girls I think that I love so much about them is that they are themselves always. Like, they don't, they do not care. God. They gonna be them no matter what. And they're a lot of fun and they're always, they're glams always on and, and they can dance mm-hmm. So Yeah. I really love the,
They're twins. They're Latinas. They're from Orange County. I thought it was Long Beach,
Orange County, long Beach. The, the the south of LA. Yeah. Um, they're, they're lit. They're, they're lit. They're definitely, I think they deserve a bigger platform than they have. So, um, I love you guys and a couple of my favorites now are Gloss Up. She's in quality control. Yeah. Um, Gloss Up!
That, that, that Shabooya is actually
Shabooya sha sha Shabooya!
That whole, that whole, like, when I listened to the beginning of the song, I was like, what finna happen? Right.
Then they went, they went crazy. And you know what's so crazy? I had, I had this like little vision that, you know, who would've been really good on there too, as a remix, maybe Bia,
You know,
Maybe I have. Yeah,
I have, yeah. I have some things to say about Bia because, and I was gonna save this for later, but I'll I'll give us a little preview. Bia is hard. Yeah. But she delivers softly.
Right.
And I like that. Yeah. It's like soft and sexual, but it's still, I'll f*ck you up.
Yeah. It's still, it's just very Alpha female. Mm-hmm. It's very, um, I like her a lot. Yeah. She's classy. She's, she's a little bit more bougie. Mm-hmm. um, on that side. Mm-hmm, uh, which I really appreciate about her.
Um, I also like, uh, Nikki Natural, she's from Miami. Um, and I love Maya the Don, she put out, um, what is it called? Dusties. She said, I have to listen something. Um, “you don't got a job, but you work in my nerves.” And I said, whoa. I can think of a few
Yeah. The girl, the, the, the, the Florida girls, they're really coming up a lot right now. Shout out to me!!
You know. Um, but I, they're, their, their ratchetness is just, um, something that they really own. Florida is a different country. They are so different down there. Florida country. Uh, for sure. But the Florida girls are definitely coming up a lot. Um, isn't, isn't that where, uh, big Sexy is from
I know Big Sexy’s from the South. I'm pretty sure big sexy is from Florida. Go ahead. Look it up. Big Sexy is
She is so funny. She's so funny to me.
And then Suki, they have to be, because Suki’s from Miami, I believe.
Well, I love to hear it. Yeah. Let's, let's confirm because yeah, Suki, um, I actually just watched her interview with Jason Lee and she was talking about sim similar to us. Um, how whenever she met Cardi, she was in the WAP Video. Did you know that?
Mmn-mmn.
Yeah. She was in the WAP video and Cardi like, kind of was like, no, I like her. I want her to be in more of the, of the video. We gotta put her in some more. And I think, uh, Rubi Rose and, and I think Latto were in there too, but she was like, Cardi is such a genuine person. She has no, she's called
Sexy Redd. I'm, I'm messing it up. It’s not Big Sexy
That;s what her chain says though. Sexy Redd. We know, we knew what she was talking about. Sexy Redd. Um, but she was like, Cardi is so nice. And she always supports me and she always shares my stuff and she doesn't have a reason to. She doesn't need to, but she's real and she's nice. So I, I appreciated her acknowledging that as well. And she didn't put anybody else, um, in the video down, but she was like, I really, I really do respect and love Cardi because she kind of pulls me up as opposed to what a lot of the other shorties can do.
Right. I can't find where she's from. Well, they're from the South.
Born and raised in St. Louis, who Sexy Redd makes, um, unapologetically raw rap music. That's lit. The only other person, the only other artist I know from St. Louis is Nelly
Right. Um, and I think a lot with those artists is like, um, and not to like, you know, like label them or anything, but like, they be talking about that ho stuff like that ho sh*t. Like that's what, what Cardi was on. Cardi came out with that. So did the city girls,
Let's talk about, let's talk about it. There's a, a video clip I want us to watch Okay. About what rap music has done to the music industry. Okay. Let's, let's get into it. Solomon
Women been singing their, for as long as there's been music, women voices let know exactly what hurt them and why. But in rap, the women stopped singing. And without the voices to anchor the truths, the women were just b*tches to be slapped. And our hoes to be passed around rap was about rage, not beauty. Rap hated most women cause it had to hurt somebody. And it did. Yes. Woo.
So, um, I don't know if you know, but that, that is an excerpt from the movie. Um, not surviving, I mean, not Straight Outta Compton, surviving Compton. Okay. And it is, uh, that is supposed to be Michel’le actually. The, the older woman in the, in the movie is actually Michel’le. And she, if you heard her songs, you would know exactly those songs. Mm-hmm. she is a phenomenal singer. Um, she was a part of, um, NWA essentially their come up and she was the ex-wife of Dr. Dre.
Okay. Or
Not ex-wife, I think girlfriend. Either way. She dated Dr. Dre. And then, um, through her relationship with him, she ended up heavily into drugs. And, um, she wanted to go to rehab. And Suge Knight actually paid to send her to rehab and they ended up getting together. But I play that, that video to kind of highlight is rap music the problem?
Yes and yes. Period. Yes. Because..
Yes, but? Or yes and?
And. Right. Yes. And because, um, I feel like it is so influential and people are so addicted to culture. Mm-hmm, like people are like, the culture, the culture, like the culture is not the kingdom honey. And so Yes. Yes. The culture is not the kingdom. And so like it all, I mean, it goes back as far as Lil’ Kim, like when I listen to Lil’ Kim's music now, I am like, oh my goodness, this is just what we, the way she talking and stuff. And, and I, I don't really know if that's because a lot of, well, it's probably because a lot of men are coming in and talking about women's vaginas and women's asses and women's attributes and all and was these things and wasn't it on, um, uh, the Notorious B.I.G., on the movie, it showed how big he was like, nah, you need to talk about this. You need to, you need to do this. Right. You need to highlight.
Yeah. F*ck that sh*t. Well, a lot of people, um, like, you know, it's provocative. It keeps the people going. Like it is provocative because people love to live in, in, in that which, what I would call like your flesh. Mm-hmm. People love to live in that. In in, in it, in it feeds. It feeds your flesh a lot. Yeah. And so, um, it, it's addicting to listen to. It's addicting to watch. And I feel like it is really corrupted the way that we view ourselves and we view our bodies. Like if we're going back to body shaming, I mean just big butts in, you know, big lips and all these things were...
Coi Literally just exists and makes good music. Yeah. And she has been torn down since the day she came to the forefront.
Why? Because she's skinny. Because why all rap b*tches gotta be, have fat asses. And,
And listen. And we are talking about
How, How- Black Chyna we're, we're demeaning and degrading and bashing Black Chyna and all the other women for getting their bodies done. Now they're undoing their bodies and they're getting bashed again.
Well, it's okay because it is the revival. And we are glad that black China is taking out the fillers. And we're glad that she's getting that tattoo removed.
And K. Michelle done took out her ass a couple of times and,
And, and she Black Chyna's doing that too. And, and I, I love to see that. Like, because there is this like, like I said, a revival happening. Yeah. And people are coming back to Yeah. Their senses and realizing,
And that natural is getting made fun of. Fake is getting made fun of. Like, we literally can't win. We can't even be. And we can't, there's nothing that we can do or cannot do that will not be talked about, especially in the, the lime, the limelight. And I feel like that's just the result of chronic reality TV shows. Ooh. Yeah. Ooh, let's get into it. So, oh, we are good. Keep it on music for, for today. But you know, I love some reality tv. We'll get to that another day. Of course you do! Because it's provocative. It makes people, it makes people act out. And then we have,
Listen, I'm not gonna lie, you know, when I was in high school, I wanted my goals was to be on the Bad Girls Club.
It's true. And when I was in, in college, my goals was to be on Love and Hip Hop. But
It makes people act these, this music, secular music, let's call it secular music, it makes people act out of character. And that is just like a feeding frenzy for people to watch. Yeah. Because some people would never act like that, but they'll watch it though.
So, honestly, I'm not gonna lie, um, I have a question after this, but everybody knows Lil Baby's my favorite rapper. And I be rapping like every word that he says, you would think I wrote it. You would think I'm from the West end of Atlanta and I'm just, you know, I trap hard. Like I re like I really, you know, embody the music that I listen to. But this year specifically, I haven't been listening as much to him or any rap music. Hip-hop in general. In general. I've been listening to r and b, I've been listening to gospel and Christian Music.
Yes. And island music. Yeah. Cause
It's so- I always want be on a island.
It is very wholesome. It very, it is very wholesome. And I feel like, um, like one, once you transition yourself and you transform yourself from the inside out, like through Jesus and, and getting to know Jesus and getting to know God, that stuff is like noise. You'd be like, I don't want to hear that anymore. Anymore.
It's like the same thing, um, that we said last time about how, like, when you turn on the TV and all we get is BMF and Dahmer and Snowfall and, and everything else. Guns, guns, guns. Like, ah, sensory overload video
Games and then video games, sensory overload!
And then the, and then they're, and then they're putting rap music on the video games. Games girl. Um, which is,
Tell me, Los Angeles is not GTA, it is GTA V: San Andreas. I was playing it when I was nine years old. Mm-hmm, with my uncles. Yep. Like it's real life LA.
It is really, it really is.
So, my, my question is, it's mental health awareness month. Yeah. Does rap specifically rap and hip hop have a negative effect on our communities? Mental health?
Yes. Period. And, um,
Yes. Period. And. Period.
Because there's a lot of, there's a lot of lies, um, from the enemy in rap music. Mm-hmm.
Like cap, cap, cap.
Like, you know what I mean? Um, like we're talking about females and the females are, they have this platform now. So they're out here just drawing, saying anything. They're like, oh, for 15 years they was saying, f*ck that b*tch. So now we gonna say, f*ck that n*gga. Like, f*ck him, milk him,
I’m F – R – E – E …
Free! Um, you know, milk him for everything he got like all that stuff. My little sister said that to me. She said, pass him around, milk him. I was like,
Oh my ...
No way. We're not doing that. So it's, it's
What Lakeyah say? She said. Um,
Well, I really like Lakeyah.
I like Lakeyah as well. I like La Another one. Lakeyah.
I like MonaLeo.
Um, and then also, you know who I love and I know, you know, but you probably forgot who I love Queen Naija. Oh, I
Already know you love,
I love, she's been Queen Naija’s fan since the,
Since. Listen. Me too. Since since, uh, Queen and the Irrelevant broke up and she first met Clare Bear. Um, just as friends, listen, me, me and my shorty Jess, we've been Queen and Clare since Queen and Clare didn't even know they were Queen and Clare. But I really love her because she can, she, she can do the Michel’le. Yeah. She can sing her pain and her, you know, FNF in a beautiful song. Yeah. Same thing with Bia. She can talk her sh*t in a beautiful, classy way.
Like Jhené, like Jhené
Flex on my ex, in my Model X
Know what I mean?
She's very cute and she's very cute. But even sometimes even with Jhené, I'm like, woo, did she say that?
Cause a lot, a lot of music, it's
Not in a bad way,
But like, sex sex sex, okay. No.
In a bad way, just more in like, it just is like, it's like Ariana, like, it's
Unexpected.
Ariana uh, says things like, oh, like “tonight I'll make deals with the devil.” And like, when you say it all cute, it sounds all cute, but really No, no, no. Honey, we, we, we, we, we can't be doing that. We can't be saying those things. And aside from like, um, the actual music itself, it's the videos.
Yeah.
The videos a little bit off the wall and it, yeah. And, and, and YouTube. Like, I don't, I don't, I don't have a kid, so I don't know what the parental advisories are.
Oh my God. It's
Bad.
YouTube is, but I'm, it's like, I can't, like, it's not like they can't find it. Like say if the mama was listening to music and they gave the baby the iPad, and so then even if the mama put on some kids' stuff, it doesn't matter. As soon as that video's over, that kid knows how to swipe down. Yeah. And then there could be this video of, you know, this, this, and, and just looks attractive too. Cause there's bright colors, right? Mm-hmm, like the video that we watched with NLE Choppa and Sexy Redd. Ooh. Like the, the, the, the, um, image, the click, the,
I'm pretty sure that was the song Slut Me Out.
It's colorful, it's colorful. It's, there's jewelry, there's like hair, there's costumes. And that's like really easy to, to click on. And then now, now we got the, like the little kids shaking
Booty. Honestly, we got
The little girl shaking booty. When I had, when I had Isabella, that's our baby sister. So cute. When I had Bell in preschool, she was living with me. Um, I was, um, I don't know. I don't remember what song. No, I do. Molly Percocet. Percocet, Molly, Percocet. She would go to preschool and sing this song in preschool. Yeah. And it, it, no, I'm glad
That can't do that or segueing into this because I wanted to talk about drugs in music, being like highlighted a lot. Oh my God. It's there.
Oh my God. It's like romanticized. Yeah. And we can blame. Um, I’m not gonna say blame, but I mean it never
Blame because you don't have to blame.
Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna blame him. I, that all starts, like, the first junkie rapper that went mainstream was Lil’ Wayne.
Oop!
It's true. I mean, he is the first one. And there's so many pieces, so many documentaries out right now that talk about how he's the one who transitioned and, and, and he,
And it's everybody's. Every,
And that's everybody. That's, that's how, you know, prescription medication became such a mainstream topic. Well, that's noting
Juice Wrld.
You Know what I mean? It is, it's the prescription. Yeah. It's the, it's the prescription drugs that that is, that is really,
I could think of every single rapper that we listen to, male and female talking about there's, if not every other song, at least one or two songs Right. Where they're talking about it, you know, Lil’ Baby Talk about, about The Lean.
But I was gonna say, Lil’ Baby also it is, he talks, has a bigger message.
I feel like he talks about it for sure. But he also is taking a lot of that stuff out. Yeah. And I feel like he, a lot of the time talks about how like, like for example, he is like, “I'm too rich to be smoking up cigs.” Like, you know, stuff like little one bars like that, um, that really take it away. And like, even like someone like Future, like he, I, I had such a big, okay,
J Cole puts out K.O.D., Uhhuh album. J Cole is my end all be all. I don't know if y'all could zoom into my Real Cool World. Oh, I'm right here. But I actually did get to show J Cole my Cole world tattoo that I designed. Um, but he puts out k o d mm-hmm. And it stands for Kids on Drugs, Kill Our Demons. They, he, he made it an acronym so anybody could do what they want. But the whole premise of it was a picture of all these kids and they're completely f*cked up on drugs.
Yeah.
And then, but every single song was about a different type of addiction. Yeah. It was about drugs. It was about money. It was about sex. It was about cheating. It was about fame. It was about, and and at the end, at the end of one of the songs, he was like, um, and the strongest drug of the mall love. And then he's like meditate, don't medicate. You know, that album was such a powerful message mm-hmm, for the culture. Yeah. That I was in my professional development committee at my law school trying to get J Cole to come to campus and preach on that album because it was just so necessary. Yeah. And it wasn't just about drugs, it was about the money. He had a t m song. It was about the cheating. He had a Kevin's heart. You know, he had everything on there. And then a couple days, weeks or months later, Future turns around and puts out World on Drugs
As if he didn't have a hand in that. Because it's just the, the song sang was Molly Percocet.
And then, uh, Juice World was on that album. World on Drugs. And then guess what? Juice World overdosed.
It's crazy. Come on. But like, okay. So,
And Mac Miller, rest in peace. He passed away on my birthday, like on my birthday. We're, we're from, from Pittsburgh. That's crazy.
Cause he was born around's mine.
He was born around your birthday. He's from Pittsburgh. He died on my birthday. And it was an overdose. Right. Like, what are, like the drugs, the drugs are contributing to the mental health crisis. They're not fixing it. Right.
Right. And I think that that's a lot to say. Like, there's been a lot of debate about Nicki in drugs and I could think that that maybe could potentially contribute to her paranoia.
Mm.
Um,
Two plus two equals....
You know what I mean? Mm. And I'm not saying anything because I have my, uh, testimony of my own. Um, and so I'm not anybody's judge, but I am somebody who is coming on the other side of that and healing on the other side of that. Um, all that couldn't have been done without my relationship with God. But on the other side of that, it's just like really pinpointing a lot of things. Like a lot of domestic violence issues, drugs,
We are gonna talk about that soon too.
A lot of, you know what I mean? A lot of, um, a lot of these things are drug-induced paranoia, drug-induced coms. Like, you know what I mean? Um, so I feel like that all needs to, to take a step back. Mm-hmm. So with the females, it's like, I don't really, okay. I do like the club though, so I'm not gonna say don't make no club, you know, bangers because you don't, there are so many more things to talk about other than, um, my attributes. Mm-hmm. Um, and like a big thing is like, are we allowed to say p*ssy on the show?
I personally don't say that word. So if you wanna say it, you can say, um, but like...
Okay. Let's say vaginas, um, I feel like we're, this is just like an obsession. Yeah. There's just like an obsession with the vagina, with the titties, with the ass. There's like this obsession Yeah. Of like romanticizing mm-hmm. um, drugs and alcohol. Like, oh, I took this, this, this pill to make me feel like this. And all of that. Like, I think is like, we could take that out and still make a hit
And like, no more munch.
Yeah. Like, and, and here's the thing.
I don’t subscribe to the Munch Mentality.
I really, I really love ice. I love ice and I like the Pink Pantheress and I, and, but like, here's my thing. It's like the poses like, you know, her famous pose Yeah. It's just like,
Can we, um, can we demonstrate for the folks that don't know?
No. Uh, but basically I can describe it. She turns around and she, well, she puts her head towards her toes, and then she puts her middle finger up between her legs, like, like, yeah. Like, like that. Mm-hmm. And like, it could be like it. Okay. There's two sides to everything. So I like the, the side of the fact that it's like, if anybody's gonna talk about vaginas, anybody's gonna talk about, it's gonna be me, and we're gonna talk about how I want to, and this is mine and I'm gonna be the one. And, and it, you know what I mean? I love
The empowerment aspect, the empowerment, the, the ownership of it. But I feel like you are still sexualizing yourself Yeah. Rather than being empowering. Mm. You know what I mean? And I'm guilty of all of these things, so I don't want anybody to be on here talking about I'm a hypocrite or we are hypocrites because we get it.
But whatever you do gotta say, say it in the comments so we can come back to,
Right. Yeah. Say it in the comments. You know what I mean? And put, you know what I mean? Say what you have to say because I'm, I'm pervert. I'm personally gonna go with the Kardashian method and I, I really have to protect my peace. So I'm not gonna say anything back to the haters. Um,
But it's okay. We love, we love the, the, the Kardashians. Um, we can get into our family breakdown, um, another time. But if we're being honest, um, I don't think that it's just rap music or female rappers. Um, I think there's also a bigger picture of women just being nasty towards other women and tearing down other women. But I did forget my little story. Rap B*tches versus their Own fans. The reason that this is the title of the show. I was at a, um, record label, industry mixer, mixer party, um,
You know, one of those in LA, I think it was last year. And I was having a great time. And this song came on and it was a very, like, particular song like that doesn't get played outside. It was an r and b song, but it had a, a famous rapper on it. And I'm just like, oh my God, I love this song. Why are they playing this in here? Oh, it must be one of the artists for this label. That makes sense. Yeah. And uh, you know, right before that, these girls had come into the section that I was in Uhhuh that I was in, that I was already sitting at that I was there, it was my section. Okay. And they come in and they're just ugh. And pushing and shoving and get outta my way and this is mine. And Ugh.
Like we experienced that a little bit at Dragon Fly.
Exactly. And I'm just like, I don't f*ck with you. Yeah. And come to find out, I put two and two together. This favorite song of mine is this shorty that just disrespected me. Dis So now I'm not gonna listen to your song anymore. Yeah. Now you lost the fan
Boycott.
So if you're a pretty b*tch rapper, don't you think your fan base is pretty b*tches?
Right.
So don't you think you should be nice to the ones that are around you? Because yes, I could have, one- I could have never heard her music before and I could have became a fan, but I was already a fan because I been singing this song on repeat for weeks and months, and I'm happy that it's playing on in the club and I'm singing every word, not knowing that you're the rude ass woman next to me who just ruined my night. Yeah.
You know? So that kind of goes back to what Meg was saying about how the, the fans feel the thing. Because what if I was one of those fans and I went to Twitter, like, this b*tch ruined my night. Mm-hmm. She's rude. I don't like her. Don't stream her music. You know, and I could have fueled a Twitter beef or, or whatever Yeah. That they do. Um, and I just, I just think, again, women versus women, like men beat us down all day. Society beats us down all day. Why are we not uplifting each other? Like Yeah. The bigger picture is women versus women. Like what, what do we do here? Well,
I think that this all goes back to like, we are in a very, very like self-absorbed and selfish, uh, generational time in history where everybody is just focused on, um, making away from themselves. And that comes from a poverty mindset. Right. Crab in a barrel.
Because Yeah. You know, a lot of people, um, are advancing and, um, like minority families and you know, there's a lot of, um, work that's been done to get a lot of people where they are, but they always go back to like thinking and worshiping their selves. And there's that concept of like, um, oh, I'm self-made. Which completely negates the whole team that works their booties off to put everything that you do together. If
You do not have a team in this industry, baby, you not gonna be in this industry for long. Yeah It just doesn't make any sense. And like, you know, people, everybody wants to be that b*tch. That girl, I'm that girl. Like, you know, and, and so
"I'm the queen."
Yeah. That there's that, you know what I mean? It's really ironic. There's that whole narrative of people wanting to be the best and the baddest, but
There's room for everybody.
Yeah. There is room for everybody. But that doesn't go away from like, things that we're like that that, that people have meditated on. Like, I wanna be that b*tch. I'm gonna be the baddest Yeah. People really, people meditate on good things, but also people meditate on things that are, are not holistic bad. Yeah. And that are not good for you. So...
Lil’ Baby said "it's enough money in here for all of us." Oh yeah. "I'll still post your music."
You have to, you, you have to have that in your mind that there's enough to go around for everybody. But that's what I mean by poverty mindset. Like, you know, people there, there, they think that it's, there's a scarcity of a lot of resources. Yeah. And so therefore scar, they scarcity act accordingly. Mm-hmm. and a lot of people in Los Angeles, a lot of females in Los Angeles, I'm very jaded by, um, just because of it's
That same club experience that I mention
The same club experience, you know, they're so rude, they're so nasty. And we're sitting here like,
They don't even, and that's my thing, the girls, they don't even wanna dance. They don't wanna dance, they don't wanna mingle. They don't wanna talk to people. That's why as a dancer, like club culture for me is, is out. And I wish that I was a part of a different generation because all I really wanna do is go dance. Cuz I'm a people that loves people. I wanna dance and I wanna meet people. I'm a people that loves people, but there's these girl, there's these girls who come get up dress. You know what I mean? Probably don't even have $20 to their name, if I'm being honest, if I'm being completely honest, because hey.
Yeah. It's a, it's a lot of, you know what I mean? A lot of shorty's acting like they are that b*tch and they sleep in their car at night. Yeah. It's
The girl. It's it's the girl. Like that's how I know, like the mean spirit is,
And there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. But act accordingly. Like humble yourself. Well, the
Mean spirited people, um, are either hurt... the Spirit of Jezebel,
You know what I mean? And there's also another spirit that I wanted to talk about, but we're not even gonna get into it. Um, but there's this spirit on earth right now that, um, of like this sex goddess era that we are very much in. And that's why like prostitution is normalized in Los Angeles.
Yeah. Tricking and in music. Tricking
Period. Yeah. Tricking in music and, and all those little types of things. That's why we began to talk about that's like
Almost there's every other rap girl song is about f*cking for money. Yeah. And not for free... there's that whole.. Whole, that whole like ho culture. Yeah.
Ding, ding. Ding. I just thought of something, um, I was told Yeah. By someone above me when I got to this world, in this industry that I'm doing life all wrong.
Yeah.
Because.
And this is professional. This is a professional being.
I should have 10 and 20 different men sending me money every week because I'm in my prime and I'm doing life wrong. Yeah, I know. And I, I sleep with people for free all the time. So what is wrong with me?
I, here's my thing. I, I, the, the, the, there go..
Excuse me for having morals and being raised by my father.
There's a whole thing of like this transac- like, we're in a very transactional, like everything is transactional. The world is on marketplace right now. Like, you know, especially
In LA especially.
Jay-Z says like, welcome to hell where you are welcome to sell. Ooh. And that is, that is a, a very like, even though we ain't gonna get into him, cause he isn't the most righteous from what I've understand. Woo. Um, but...
That's another episode.
Yeah. It's another episode. Just in general though, it's a very transactional society. And that's because people are so selfish. Everybody wants something for their sauce. So they're like, I will give you myself because I don't have any, um, I don't have any, like, people aren't prode protecting their womb and, and they're, they're, they don't really have that like, value of like, what it means to exchange, because you are gonna talk about the transaction. The real transaction is the energy exchange. It happens. So between the, the, the, the activity. Mm-hmm. Right? And we're so focused on the superficial thing that it just makes no sense. And, and every single time you do that, you take apart a something outta yourself to the point where you're so messed up in here because you don't have anything else to give, nothing left. And you don't know what somebody else put up inside of you. And that's, that's going to stay there. And it's, you know what I mean? And you have to do a lot of detox and a lot of rewiring. And, and so just in general, I feel like the, the biggest takeaway that I could say in this is like, we really gotta pay attention to what we're talking about. We gotta really, we're talking about what we're consuming. Well, we're consuming. Watching, listen to eating, watching. Yeah. It's all the senses. Yeah. All the senses. And as soon as you do, as soon as you do, you'll realize like, because there's some people who like, there's so much noise in their head and that's why the suicide rate is going out of control. Mm-hmm. Because people are just taking, taking, taking.
So that's why meditating is so hard. Mm-hmm because there's so much up here, you can't shut it off. And that's why when you start meditating, you have to practice and practice and practice. Cause it's not easy. But. But okay. And, and here's the, here's the last thing that I'll say because I always get, like, people don't even wanna talk to me anymore. But the, the last, the last thing that I would wanna say about that is like, we have to like watch like manifestation technique is almost like white witchcraft because like, we're manifesting for things. Like they're just going up, we're we're talking about the universe Right. Instead of asking our provider our God for things. And that's what makes it, that's what takes it out of that, that, that, um, spiritual practice and makes it demonic. Like, because you know, you're manifesting but you don't even know who you're asking from. And you're, and you're believing in people for things.
Idolatry instead of, instead of believing in God for things
Idolatry is the devil. Yeah.
And so I, I just feel like the best that we can do to like kind of get control of this narrative is just push a better one and push and we have to one that is, we have to do it because I just learned, so there's Gen Z. Yeah. Which you are. Um, 12 to 25. The gen after You I just learned is called Gen Alpha. Oh. So anyone born after, I think it's 2010, who's ever not 12. Who's ever under-
13 and under. 13 and under. Yeah. Yeah. Um, we have to get it together for them Yeah. For them. Because
People are scared about Gen Z. No, I am terrified Yeah. About Gen Alpha. Yeah. Because this is all they're getting. But I think this is all they're seeing. I- actually, I actually have a little bit of a different perspective. I actually see hope for them because I think that we're actually starting to get it right.
We're gonna switch? We're going, we're transitioning, you know, we're actually starting to get it right. You know what I mean? And I see people like, I follow that positive perspective. You know, I, I see a lot of different things on, um, on my Instagram now because this is, this is how important it is to watch what you watch... Algorithms.
Cause now I have completely like Christian and holistic mm-hmm. and healing mm-hmm, algorithm completely. And I see people taking the screens away Yeah. And seeing there, their behavioral, uh, changes in their children. I see people starting to grow their own food a lot more. I see people trying to, uh, come to Jesus. I I've seen it. There, there's this spirit and there's this revival that is happening among the people that we should be really excited about. But we should be worried about the millennials and Gen Z because they're kind of the leaders right now. Yeah. And so we, it is,
It is literally in our control.
That's why we have to start changing the way that we think, which starts by changing in what we watch and what we listen to and who we watch and who we listen to and, and how we treat people. And how we treat people! And here's what I wanna say.. don't treat people bad.
Here's what I wanna say. There is, um, also because there are a lot of like rap music out there, but there is a such thing as Christian rap. Mm-hmm.
There is, and all that means is what? You, that you just, you uh, talk about the wisdom of God. No cussing, can't cuss. Just no cussing. No cussing. And you just speak the wisdom wisdoms and the truth. I mean, but here's the thing. There's a lot of things that aren't always the most positive. Like remember we were reading, um, the Wrath of God. That's not the most positive thing, but it is something that people need to be aware of. Yeah. So just the principles that come from that big book that, you know, no one wants to read anymore. No one, not just, they don't wanna read that big book. They don't wanna read it all. And we do also, shameless plug, we host our own bible study. We do- on Monday, Mondays on Mariposa. If you're in Los Angeles, um, all are welcome to come. We've started with the book of John. Yeah. And we're going to literally, we're just gonna be there every Monday. And we're beginners, like, like I wanna say like I'm not a, uh, we're not beginners in, um, believing Jesus to be our savior. We are beginners in, um, deep diving into, in... Deep diving. Actual into the actual pages. Yeah. The scripture. Yeah. And so, um, even if you are new or you never thought about it, or you wanna know more or you're interested, I would definitely tap in, um, to that resource, because that's what I'm saying, we have to give those resources to people so they're not, because, you know, these are the biggest- Build your church!
You know, these are the- Build your church!
Women in, um, pop culture, which everybody believes. Um, these are the biggest women. And, um, I don't know if they're putting out the best message, the right message. Yeah. Um, so, uh, there are other women doing the work. For me personally, I think my, my end game here is you can talk about your body. You can talk about whatever you wanna talk about. But let's not perpetuate hate. Yeah. There, there is no more room. Yeah. What did you say before? Bullying is so 2010.
It's out. It's out. It's outta style. Where, where we wanna, we wanna build people up, we wanna uplift. Yeah. Our brothers and our sisters. We want, we want everybody to succeed.
Yeah. Cut the hater sh*t out. Yeah. And like, you don't, when we're talk, like, like for example, when we're talking about our bodies, we don't necessarily have to talk about the attribute of the body. We could talk about nourishing the bodies. Oh. You know what I mean? We could talk about putting the good things in. And I'm not saying the good things are silicone.
Oh, I'm gonna check out of that convo, Um, but I guess I didn't need to go there. Yeah, it's fine. Another episode. We got like 12 new episodes out of this one. But I just wanna say thank you sissy! Of course! For coming on this journey with me again, Nina. Uh, you are very much appreciated. And again, professional dancer, professional choreographer, nail artist.
Nail artist. Uh, she does everything. Yeah. And again, she is the reason why I decided to venture into this entertainment industry, uh, with my legal career. Um, so thank you for joining us. Of course. Thank you for having me. I love to be a part of such a project and I love to be called on to talk about this topic.
Yes. And I don't want it to be rap b*tches versus anyone. I don't want it to be anyone versus anyone. I just want everyone to just love each other and just be happy. Happiness is a choice. It is. Love is a choice. I love you. I love you. And I'm happy to be here. Of course. Thank you for having me! Let us know in the comments what you want to hear next, or what you want us to talk about from what we talked about. Subscribe to the royalty room. We are on casto royalty room.casto.com. We are the legal queen, um, on all social media platforms. And we're available on every, uh, podcasting platform that you can find. So honey, you don't have a reason not to answer. I mean not to listen, but we wanna know what you thought. So thank you and we'll see you again in two weeks.